July 8, 2024
Property and Financial Crimes

Is Taxation Theft? ft. Exskillsme & Irishladdie AKA Vaush



Irishladdie AKA Vaush debates Exskillsme

Date streamed: 12/1/2019

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29 Comments

  • @PS2_Best_Era June 16, 2024

    Honestly, Vaush lost. He even admitted to not knowing what he's talking about when it comes to economics. He's very much someone who's married to theory over reality. Even if his theory is disproven, that won't get him to reflect on his delusional "socialist" utopia. Besides, prior attempts at implementing socialism didn't go so well, let's just say.

  • @lexj432hz6 June 16, 2024

    20:20 Vaush on exploitation and coconut analogy
    ——
    22:00 Is employment voluntary?
    23:40 Vaush response
    25:10 Eksillz response “it DOES matter why they chose to do something.”
    25:50 Vaush “what a defeatist response!”
    ——
    27:45 Is slavery voluntary? What makes it immoral? Work or starve?
    29:30 Destiny lava analogy
    32:00 Vaush “your methodology is agnostic to preexisting oppression.”
    34:10 Vaush “I agree capitalism helped. Now let’s move past it.”
    34:50 Vaush would kill Ekskillsme
    ——
    36:40 Vaush – capitalism becomes highly exploitive without gov’t interference
    39:20 Housing costs, rent control
    ——
    43:00 Global trade, India
    50:00 Vaush “it’s impossible to justify every single potential problem”
    51:30 Exskillz “you want a paradigm shift”
    53:40 Both continue global trade discussion
    ——
    1:00:00 Does western trade rely on exploitation of foreign workers?
    1:01:10 Vaush‘s 3 cents/hour anology

  • @Mrax_Taylor June 16, 2024

    property is also theft.

  • God exskillsme is so retarded

  • @RavenousNuNu June 16, 2024

    Vaush won.

  • @DrJams June 16, 2024

    Home owner tax is theft

  • @danielfincher8439 June 16, 2024

    Vaush was an evil monster from the beginning wasn't he?

  • @AlexandraSpeaks June 16, 2024

    Capitalists are such cucks why does anybody give them the time of day

  • @klanablada9849 June 16, 2024

    The difference is: if you dont pay taxes, they will bring you in jail.
    If you dont have a job, nobody cares.

    Thats a dumb argument. Its like saying eating is slavery.

  • @brandoloudly9457 June 16, 2024

    i dont know where ex falls on a lot of things, but this conversation was his and his alone. these socialists sound dumb af making their arguments

  • @Jasonsmith-sr1ke June 16, 2024

    Watching this 4 and a half years later is wild. Times have changed.

  • @averagejoe225 June 16, 2024

    49:32 Vaush admitting here that he doesn't have expertise on a topic is absolutely unreal considering the kind of figure he's devolved into now

  • @rocketsniper8726 June 16, 2024

    COCONUT ISLAND DEBUT

  • @individualsquid409 June 16, 2024

    I miss exskillsme

  • @markd.9042 June 16, 2024

    Vaush literally going mask-off about giving ExKillsMe (however much of a pissant he is) the guillotine, is absolutely unacceptable, and I'd argue that he should be excluded from the conversation on those grounds.

  • @GynxShinx June 16, 2024

    Less people should be Exskillsme

  • @dragunov815 June 16, 2024

    Wow.

  • @Jason-un9ps June 16, 2024

    21:02 And in YOUR dream world, some rich oligarch will FORCE you to work for bread, while he takes your girlfriend in his office. I know you like being ¢u¢ked Vaush, but not all of us want to live like that.

  • @rabbitcreative June 16, 2024

    'Forced' to be a 'worker'? … Wow. Okay. I'm out.

  • @jessetaylor7033 June 16, 2024

    Good to know vaush has always been a piece of shit though ya know

  • @lordsoros627 June 16, 2024

    DIRECT taxation is theft.
    The income tax is supposed to be an EXERCISE tax.
    Not a tax on your labour.
    The "income" tax as you know it is unconstitutional.
    But however.
    Even were it not and was indeed perfectly legal then this matters not anyway because if JURY NULLIFICATION.
    The US constitution is a codified version of the uncodified English constitution and the USA has the English common law and English jurisprudence.
    It has English court de jure.
    The jury may judge the law as well as the facts of the case and should they decide to they can return a not guilty verdict REGARDLESS of law or legislation.
    Even if the income tax is perfectly legal, which it is not, the jury can decide that it is theft regardless and return a not guilty verdict for anyone disobeying the tax "laws" should decide that justice is served that way.
    And it is.
    NO ONE should pay the income tax and the rich can be taxed in many ways, the poor should not be getting taxed at all.
    WHY is a McDonald's worker paying the income tax?
    To redistribute to who?
    Those that do not have jobs?
    Can the rich not be just taxed for that?
    No.
    Because it is not about "redistributing" wealth it is about power and state control and outright gansterism.

  • @theslavereport7485 June 16, 2024

    To deny voluntary transparency is to permit government censorship and when governments are based off theft, they think can do whatever they want.

    What if the corrupt couldnt steal from us to fund endless wars , gain of function research, bailouts…. @VoluntaristGirl is on point , you banning her proves who you really are. Stay a willful slave, keep voting harder…. pay your kings ransom and expect things to change. Certainly not illogical whatsoever….

  • @mr.wigglemunch3856 June 16, 2024

    Normal tax to pay for infrastructural things etc is not theft imo, but charging me 10 times more than what they spend to pay for these tings is absolutely theft

  • @Johnjackjack June 16, 2024

    This is why economics without sociology in it is brain rotting how in your right mind are you arguing that minimum wage is bad policy with an economics degree unless you remove all human emotion from the equation and awesome everyone is EXACTLY the same. Dude really thinks he is smarter then every single economics in EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY in the 1st world countries exactluting like what Sweden due to high union rates which fights against the MONOSIMPY which some how does not exist this is not laughable but scary how you can go through 4 years of education and not relize this when I have dropped out of college and know this

  • @DannySi June 16, 2024

    I've been watching Destiny on and off since like 2011 and I always liked Exskilsme. Dude is very good at making his points and defending them. Sucks that he chose to leave the community shortly after this

  • As infuriating as Exskillsme could be. He was very entertaining to listen to. Moreover than Vaushladdie.

  • @humanbeing5396 June 16, 2024

    Do end results justify violent means? Statist= yes. Libertarian= no.

  • @whatamidoing4 June 16, 2024

    Vaush really the same dude three years ago more cringe if anything ew

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